Comments on: Some Objections to Google’s Comment Spamming Solution and My Opinion

By: Priyadi

Priyadi — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:37:03 +0000

#8, referer kemungkinan hilang. Satu lagi alasan untuk pakai nofollow dan bukan cara lainnya . Tapi jangan mengandalkan referer untuk hal yang penting karena referer mudah untuk dipalsukan.

By: armadda

armadda — Mon, 24 Jan 2005 06:38:34 +0000

kalo pake http://www.google.com/url apakah referer kita ilang? bwt sebagian orang referer juga sangat berarti termasuk saya.

By: Priyadi

Priyadi — Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:19:59 +0000

#6, paling tidak insentif utama saat ini untuk melakukan spam blog sudah tidak ada lagi, jadi google untung, blog juga untung

By: Jay

Jay — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 18:59:35 +0000

google bukan hendak menghilangkan spam, tapi mengurangi reward PageRank para spammer supaya indeks berkurang di search engine, ini sebenarnya tujuan utama google, menyajikan indeks URL yang lebih berkualitas

ini usaha google meminta bantuan secara tersembunyi kepada para blogger khususnya untuk meningkatkan kualitas database search engine-nya

By: Priyadi

Priyadi — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:03:12 +0000

#3: You might not care about your own pagerank, but some people do, and in some cases they do very religiously. Hence the objection of this move by leading search engines. But the point is people already have the power to do what nofollow intented to accomplish. Having people agree on a common standard instead of resorting to hackish ways is always a step forward.

Of course, there will always be bad people on the Internet. People have been trying to stop email spam since mid 90s, but we still receive spam today. I think this will not be an exception. We’d still have blog spam as before. But less incentive for spammers to spam is always a good thing.

I do think this move by Google et al would yield a better result than any anti email spam efforts so far. The email people haven’t been able (or maybe wouldn’t be able) to remove incentive for people to send email spam so far. But nofollow does remove the present primary incentive for people to make comment spam.

By: Priyadi

Priyadi — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:43:03 +0000

#2: Menurut saya usaha yang dilakukan oleh para search engine sudah maksimal, di luar ini bisa apa lagi mereka? Mau meng’exclude’ blog dari hasil pencarian? Mudah-mudahan tidak sampai sejauh itu, walaupun banyak sekali yang protes karena hasil pencarian kadang-kadang didominasi oleh blog .

By: amal

amal — Sat, 22 Jan 2005 11:37:02 +0000

Surely I do not care too much about my own rank due to linking to other sites. As far as I know, my site’s rank do not decrease by the way I link to others’ — with the extra possibilities that the linked site is somewhat accepted as “more important” because I credit my reference to it. At this point I want linking to other important-and-acceptable sites as natural as possible, as simply as HTML recomended, and providing no hassle, nor middle technique which seems placing another virtual barier.

Luckily, I deal with moderate spam visitors that up until now can be handled gently with other plugin.

Indeed spam attitude is a nightmare not only in blog’s comment. I ever wrote a small, poor, and example-based, Python script to convert my own data into Wiki’s page(s), and the result is horrible: it is so easy to create a new page(s) even with novice’s knowledge about Python! This was very useful for me as valid owner of that Wiki, but if I shoot that script to other Wiki to create garbage page(s)?

In most occassion I’d like to agree with standard — and this is the best reason I can accept “nofollow”. Even this method seems not to go into panacea, “a remedy for all diseases”, we have been starting with standard — something we can hardly push others to comply with.

By: enda

enda — Fri, 21 Jan 2005 23:56:22 +0000

sebenernya bagus sih udah ada usaha. yg di complain banyak orang rasanya adalah karena yg dilakukan dengan nofollow ini kok terasa setengah2x dan ga menyelesaikan masalah hehe

By: idban

idban — Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:33:09 +0000

Who gives a damn about blog? Let’em suffer. I hope this will keep blogs off my Google searches

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