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	<title>Comments on: Captcha Guidelines</title>
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		<title>By: codeman38</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-19620</link>
		<dc:creator>codeman38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2005 17:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More potentially confusing characters for #1:  2 and Z; 5 and S; 7 and T; 8 and B.  With enough distortion, you can&#039;t tell them apart-- indeed, sometimes it&#039;s hard to tell O and D apart...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More potentially confusing characters for #1:  2 and Z; 5 and S; 7 and T; 8 and B.  With enough distortion, you can&#8217;t tell them apart&#8211; indeed, sometimes it&#8217;s hard to tell O and D apart&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Jauhari</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12654</link>
		<dc:creator>Jauhari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 06:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captcha?

Perlu SINAU MANEH kii :((</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captcha?</p>
<p>Perlu SINAU MANEH kii :((</p>
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		<title>By: Jaya</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12648</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 05:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captcha have accessibility problem. well, If you just assuming that everyone using browser with GUI interface, you could ignore this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captcha have accessibility problem. well, If you just assuming that everyone using browser with GUI interface, you could ignore this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: arih</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12635</link>
		<dc:creator>arih</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi, salam kenal...
Interesting, I&#039;ve always been bugged by Yahoo&#039;s capthca, because they mix letters, numbers, and case-sensitive, and I just know what that&#039;s called from your post :p
I agree with #1 and #2, but I don&#039;t think #3 is necessary if the captchas are adequately human solvable. And, agree, I don&#039;t see any conflict with PWNtcha&#039;s requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi, salam kenal&#8230;<br />
Interesting, I&#8217;ve always been bugged by Yahoo&#8217;s capthca, because they mix letters, numbers, and case-sensitive, and I just know what that&#8217;s called from your post :p<br />
I agree with #1 and #2, but I don&#8217;t think #3 is necessary if the captchas are adequately human solvable. And, agree, I don&#8217;t see any conflict with PWNtcha&#8217;s requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Bi[G]</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12519</link>
		<dc:creator>Bi[G]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>captcha apaan sih ?
temennya cap cay yah?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>captcha apaan sih ?<br />
temennya cap cay yah?</p>
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		<title>By: Priyadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12480</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 04:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>captchas are not keys. they are a method to distinguish human and machines. they are used when human are welcomed but machines are not. a captcha incomprehensible to humans is a very bad captcha.

looking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://sam.zoy.org/projects/pwntcha/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pwntcha&lt;/a&gt; page, none of my guidelines above are in conflict with their requirements of a good captcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>captchas are not keys. they are a method to distinguish human and machines. they are used when human are welcomed but machines are not. a captcha incomprehensible to humans is a very bad captcha.</p>
<p>looking at the <a href="http://sam.zoy.org/projects/pwntcha/" rel="nofollow">pwntcha</a> page, none of my guidelines above are in conflict with their requirements of a good captcha.</p>
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		<title>By: asta</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12465</link>
		<dc:creator>asta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you use a key for your home, if it&#039;s easy to break by burglars?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you use a key for your home, if it&#8217;s easy to break by burglars?</p>
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		<title>By: Priyadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12464</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1: Yes, I&#039;m aware of efforts of breaking captchas. But from users&#039; perspective, complicated capthcas are lousy too. Not to mention it is trivial to reliably &#039;break&#039; even the most complicated captchas by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2004/01/27/solving_and_creating.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reusing them in other websites&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1: Yes, I&#8217;m aware of efforts of breaking captchas. But from users&#8217; perspective, complicated capthcas are lousy too. Not to mention it is trivial to reliably &#8216;break&#8217; even the most complicated captchas by <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2004/01/27/solving_and_creating.html" rel="nofollow">reusing them in other websites</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: asta</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2005/04/13/captcha-guidelines/#comment-12456</link>
		<dc:creator>asta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 23:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your list describes what a bad captcha is.

Some people already decode existing captchas http://sam.zoy.org/projects/pwntcha/

And if a captcha follows your list above, it will be a lousy one.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your list describes what a bad captcha is.</p>
<p>Some people already decode existing captchas <a href="http://sam.zoy.org/projects/pwntcha/" rel="nofollow">http://sam.zoy.org/projects/pwntcha/</a></p>
<p>And if a captcha follows your list above, it will be a lousy one.</p>
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