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	<title>Comments on: NAT Detection</title>
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		<title>By: NAT</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-578596</link>
		<dc:creator>NAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pada pusing mikirin NAT. router...router... kenapa km mesti semox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pada pusing mikirin NAT. router&#8230;router&#8230; kenapa km mesti semox</p>
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		<title>By: xamdah</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-67713</link>
		<dc:creator>xamdah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 04:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pakai c*b*lv*s**n,... minta yang isat....bisa minta open host loh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pakai c*b*lv*s**n,&#8230; minta yang isat&#8230;.bisa minta open host loh</p>
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		<title>By: Priyadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-55889</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#65: yakin bukan, soalnya didisconnectnya di level PPP. selain itu pakai ISP lain yang double NAT juga gak pernah ada masalah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#65: yakin bukan, soalnya didisconnectnya di level PPP. selain itu pakai ISP lain yang double NAT juga gak pernah ada masalah.</p>
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		<title>By: N5SNN</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-55780</link>
		<dc:creator>N5SNN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mungkin effect double-natting? NAT dari anda dan si ISP juga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mungkin effect double-natting? NAT dari anda dan si ISP juga.</p>
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		<title>By: starchie</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-53170</link>
		<dc:creator>starchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#32 hwahahahahahaha ... ada yg ketepu !!!! :))
#47 yoih ! tapi namanya orang indo itu tukang sulap semua, kadang udah di NAT banyak, masih juga macem - macem tuntutan nya
#50 memang tidak bisa. eh ada yg lewat ding om jae, YM !

hehehe niat banget tu ISP massangin p0f, hemm jangan RS lagi yg masang :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#32 hwahahahahahaha &#8230; ada yg ketepu !!!! <img src='http://priyadi.net/smilies/yahoo_laughloud.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;&#41;' /><br />
#47 yoih ! tapi namanya orang indo itu tukang sulap semua, kadang udah di NAT banyak, masih juga macem - macem tuntutan nya<br />
#50 memang tidak bisa. eh ada yg lewat ding om jae, YM !</p>
<p>hehehe niat banget tu ISP massangin p0f, hemm jangan RS lagi yg masang <img src='http://priyadi.net/smilies/yahoo_laughloud.gif' alt='&#58;&#41;&#41;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#41;&#41;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Priyadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52966</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#62: no, I'm 100% sure. i spent two days fiddling with MTU and other networking parameters. and it just works with another ISP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#62: no, I&#8217;m 100% sure. i spent two days fiddling with MTU and other networking parameters. and it just works with another ISP.</p>
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		<title>By: Marek Bialoglowy</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52918</link>
		<dc:creator>Marek Bialoglowy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2006 07:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;You can actually change port range for the NAT in the 2.2/4 kernel&lt;/b&gt; Thus, detecting NAT by ports was never an efficient method. Lcamtuf's p0f is quite a good method of detecting NATs but as you mentioned, it will not show different hosts behinde NAT if someone decide to share internet connectivity via Proxy (HTTP or SOCKS). Another good method is to tunnel traffic via SSH or SSL tunnels to external server, thus for specific services that are not using HTTP, you can use tunnels. Otherwise, you can modify kernel to send traffic that always looks the same. &lt;b&gt;Oh, and I think your problem is related to configuration of your kernel , hardware problems or other issues.&lt;/b&gt; I think using p0f for big ISP networks is quite unlikely as there is totaly no point in use of it, as ISP implement traffic control per bandwidth and simply don't care how many PCs are behind - the traffic rate always stays within limits. I'd advise you to analyse why your connection drops (in which point). There is a chance that your modem/router/firewall drops when you got higher traffic due to use of the network by 2 computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You can actually change port range for the NAT in the 2.2/4 kernel</b> Thus, detecting NAT by ports was never an efficient method. Lcamtuf&#8217;s p0f is quite a good method of detecting NATs but as you mentioned, it will not show different hosts behinde NAT if someone decide to share internet connectivity via Proxy (HTTP or SOCKS). Another good method is to tunnel traffic via SSH or SSL tunnels to external server, thus for specific services that are not using HTTP, you can use tunnels. Otherwise, you can modify kernel to send traffic that always looks the same. <b>Oh, and I think your problem is related to configuration of your kernel , hardware problems or other issues.</b> I think using p0f for big ISP networks is quite unlikely as there is totaly no point in use of it, as ISP implement traffic control per bandwidth and simply don&#8217;t care how many PCs are behind - the traffic rate always stays within limits. I&#8217;d advise you to analyse why your connection drops (in which point). There is a chance that your modem/router/firewall drops when you got higher traffic due to use of the network by 2 computers.</p>
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		<title>By: kucing</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52725</link>
		<dc:creator>kucing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 04:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>katanya temen, pake &lt;a href="http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&#38;sid=20030209221723" rel="nofollow"&gt; random-id&lt;/a&gt;, klo d linux nggak tau :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katanya temen, pake <a href="http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20030209221723" rel="nofollow"> random-id</a>, klo d linux nggak tau <img src='http://priyadi.net/smilies/yahoo_bigsmile.gif' alt='&#58;&#68;' class='wp-smiley' width='18' height='18' title='&#58;&#68;' /></p>
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		<title>By: Priyadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52264</link>
		<dc:creator>Priyadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 05:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#59: rasanya bukan masalah MTU deh, saya juga sudah oprek MTU-nya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#59: rasanya bukan masalah MTU deh, saya juga sudah oprek MTU-nya.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunaryo Hadi</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52241</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunaryo Hadi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rasanya mungkin ini jawabannya &lt;a href="http://www.sunaryohadi.info/nat-problem-dan-di-mtu-setting.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;NAT problem dan MTU setting&lt;/a&gt;. Mudah-mudahan berhasil seperti saya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasanya mungkin ini jawabannya <a href="http://www.sunaryohadi.info/nat-problem-dan-di-mtu-setting.htm" rel="nofollow">NAT problem dan MTU setting</a>. Mudah-mudahan berhasil seperti saya.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunaryo Hadi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NAT problem dan di MTU setting</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-52240</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunaryo Hadi &#187; Blog Archive &#187; NAT problem dan di MTU setting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Priyadi bilang bahwa ISP agak bertingkah. Kebetulan saya punya kasus yang mungkin serupa. Hanya saja di kasus saya, komputer share tidak bisa mengakses ke https. Mungkin ini bukan kesalahan ISP sepenuhnya. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Priyadi bilang bahwa ISP agak bertingkah. Kebetulan saya punya kasus yang mungkin serupa. Hanya saja di kasus saya, komputer share tidak bisa mengakses ke https. Mungkin ini bukan kesalahan ISP sepenuhnya. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mYo</title>
		<link>http://priyadi.net/archives/2006/02/07/nat-detection/#comment-51771</link>
		<dc:creator>mYo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2006 14:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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